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> <channel><title>Comments on: Our first steps of buying a house</title> <atom:link href="http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:56:32 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Ann</title><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/comment-page-1/#comment-40510</link> <dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 03:57:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sensetosave.com/?p=1157#comment-40510</guid> <description>It seems like you have a good handle on what you are comfortable affording, not what the bank is comfortable lending.  28% of after tax income sounds well and good, but does that mean you can&#039;s afford a night out for three years? What is someone is laid off or hurt? Caution is what people practiced when buying a home 20 years ago, and caution was pushed to the side the the last decade and many banks are playing &quot;what is old is new again&quot;.Is the Pittsburgh Market currently a Buyer&#039;s Market or a Neutral Market?  If it is a Buyer&#039;s market, with the $8K incentive now may be a great time to buy if you decide you can afford it.I also would suggest you look into Open Houses.  You don&#039;t have to drag an agent along, and you can see what is out there in a price range you can afford in an area you like.  You can join other lookie-loos on a Sunday, but your purpose is research.   Our last outing we looked at well over 100 houses before we found what we wanted.Use a Real Estate Attorney even if not required by state law, and even if you have a &quot;buyer&#039;s agent&quot;. It looks like according to PA law, unless the you are paying the agent&#039;s commission, the agent is working for the seller.  So, rather then having a &quot;buyer&#039;s agent&quot;, you have a &quot;agent that brings the buyer&quot;.  This is a very important distinction as the less you tell the agent the better.  Why?  The agent would be required to inform the seller of anything that could benefit the seller in the transaction.  The agent&#039;s fiduciary duty is to the seller.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dos.state.pa.us/bpoa/LIB/bpoa/20/10/recconsnotice.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; PA  Code §35.336 &lt;/a&gt;Reconfirm this to make sure the code is current.  And, if you have a buyer&#039;s agent that you are paying, read the contract thoroughly and have your real estate attorney read it well too.&lt;a href=&quot;http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/realestate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; iVillage&#039;s GardenWeb RE Forum &lt;/a&gt; has some very knowledgeable folks posting, as well as thousands of threads on buying and selling houses.   Take some time to read about resale value  as well as buying a house to fit your family&#039;s needs.  Sometimes the two do not mesh.Best wishes on your journey.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like you have a good handle on what you are comfortable affording, not what the bank is comfortable lending.  28% of after tax income sounds well and good, but does that mean you can&#8217;s afford a night out for three years? What is someone is laid off or hurt? Caution is what people practiced when buying a home 20 years ago, and caution was pushed to the side the the last decade and many banks are playing &#8220;what is old is new again&#8221;.</p><p>Is the Pittsburgh Market currently a Buyer&#8217;s Market or a Neutral Market?  If it is a Buyer&#8217;s market, with the $8K incentive now may be a great time to buy if you decide you can afford it.</p><p>I also would suggest you look into Open Houses.  You don&#8217;t have to drag an agent along, and you can see what is out there in a price range you can afford in an area you like.  You can join other lookie-loos on a Sunday, but your purpose is research.   Our last outing we looked at well over 100 houses before we found what we wanted.</p><p>Use a Real Estate Attorney even if not required by state law, and even if you have a &#8220;buyer&#8217;s agent&#8221;. It looks like according to PA law, unless the you are paying the agent&#8217;s commission, the agent is working for the seller.  So, rather then having a &#8220;buyer&#8217;s agent&#8221;, you have a &#8220;agent that brings the buyer&#8221;.  This is a very important distinction as the less you tell the agent the better.  Why?  The agent would be required to inform the seller of anything that could benefit the seller in the transaction.  The agent&#8217;s fiduciary duty is to the seller.<br
/> <a
href="http://www.dos.state.pa.us/bpoa/LIB/bpoa/20/10/recconsnotice.pdf" rel="nofollow"> PA  Code §35.336 </a></p><p>Reconfirm this to make sure the code is current.  And, if you have a buyer&#8217;s agent that you are paying, read the contract thoroughly and have your real estate attorney read it well too.</p><p><a
href="http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/realestate/" rel="nofollow"> iVillage&#8217;s GardenWeb RE Forum </a> has some very knowledgeable folks posting, as well as thousands of threads on buying and selling houses.   Take some time to read about resale value  as well as buying a house to fit your family&#8217;s needs.  Sometimes the two do not mesh.</p><p>Best wishes on your journey.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Debbi</title><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/comment-page-1/#comment-40487</link> <dc:creator>Debbi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:24:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sensetosave.com/?p=1157#comment-40487</guid> <description>http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/rhs/If you qualify for a government loan, this is the way to go. Follow the link above!!Debbi</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/rhs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/rhs/</a></p><p>If you qualify for a government loan, this is the way to go. Follow the link above!!</p><p>Debbi</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kacie</title><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/comment-page-1/#comment-40486</link> <dc:creator>Kacie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:20:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sensetosave.com/?p=1157#comment-40486</guid> <description>Hi Linda,Yes, there are hooks to the $8k. If you sell before 3 years, you do have to repay the money. We haven&#039;t decided if we want to rent or buy just yet, but we are looking at both options to see which might be the best one for us. I am pretty risk averse myself, and even though that $8k is a lot of money, I&#039;m not completely sure if it&#039;s worth it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Linda,</p><p>Yes, there are hooks to the $8k. If you sell before 3 years, you do have to repay the money. We haven&#8217;t decided if we want to rent or buy just yet, but we are looking at both options to see which might be the best one for us. I am pretty risk averse myself, and even though that $8k is a lot of money, I&#8217;m not completely sure if it&#8217;s worth it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: linda</title><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/comment-page-1/#comment-40485</link> <dc:creator>linda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:43:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sensetosave.com/?p=1157#comment-40485</guid> <description>Just curious, are there any hooks in this $8,000, like do you have to pay it back if you not keep the house for so long?  How about renting a house instead of buying.  The feeling I am getting from  you is that you have a little baby, you would like a lawn to for him to pay in and this $8,000 is something that gives you an excuse to look.  Buying a house is a big risk, especially on a one income household.  Anything happens to that job, or you have to transfer now you got to unload that house or have two households.  Its just a lot of risk for 8 grand.  IMHO.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious, are there any hooks in this $8,000, like do you have to pay it back if you not keep the house for so long?  How about renting a house instead of buying.  The feeling I am getting from  you is that you have a little baby, you would like a lawn to for him to pay in and this $8,000 is something that gives you an excuse to look.  Buying a house is a big risk, especially on a one income household.  Anything happens to that job, or you have to transfer now you got to unload that house or have two households.  Its just a lot of risk for 8 grand.  IMHO.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: frugalchick</title><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/comment-page-1/#comment-40470</link> <dc:creator>frugalchick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:05:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sensetosave.com/?p=1157#comment-40470</guid> <description>This is very exciting Kacie! Good luck on the house hunting.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very exciting Kacie! Good luck on the house hunting.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stacy</title><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/comment-page-1/#comment-40462</link> <dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:36:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sensetosave.com/?p=1157#comment-40462</guid> <description>Sounds exciting!! I can&#039;t wait until we&#039;re out of this area to buy! The &quot;starter&quot; homes start at around 200k!! Yuck! Not gonna work for us!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds exciting!! I can&#8217;t wait until we&#8217;re out of this area to buy! The &#8220;starter&#8221; homes start at around 200k!! Yuck! Not gonna work for us!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mercedes</title><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/comment-page-1/#comment-40448</link> <dc:creator>Mercedes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:26:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sensetosave.com/?p=1157#comment-40448</guid> <description>Ok, a few things:1) I believe it is your agent that needs a copy of the pre-approval letter.  there&#039;s no need for the seller&#039;s agent, much less the sellers, to know your approval limit.  If something is on the table your agent&#039;s assurance that you have been pre-approved for that amount should be enough to the other agent.
2)  I was a first home buyer once too and I know the excitement of finally owning your own home and making it your own.  Unless you are ready to buy fairly soon talking to an agent could almost be jumping the gun.  I say this because two things may happen: a) when you mention you are looking to buy in a few months or so, agent will be discouraged.  h ewants to make his commission NOW not in a few months.  As a result he may not take you so seriourly yet. b) he may decide to move up YOUR time table to fit HIS.  he may be aggressive and push towards lots of showings to get you to buy a house NOW so he can get his commission.
3)  You are very smart to have the next buyer in mind.  Always do this and try not to fall in love with home that are &quot;almost&quot; perfect but have that one off the wall characteristic.  Chances are you won&#039;t be in that home forever and what was &quot;cute&quot; to you may not be to others.Good luck!Mercedes</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, a few things:</p><p>1) I believe it is your agent that needs a copy of the pre-approval letter.  there&#8217;s no need for the seller&#8217;s agent, much less the sellers, to know your approval limit.  If something is on the table your agent&#8217;s assurance that you have been pre-approved for that amount should be enough to the other agent.<br
/> 2)  I was a first home buyer once too and I know the excitement of finally owning your own home and making it your own.  Unless you are ready to buy fairly soon talking to an agent could almost be jumping the gun.  I say this because two things may happen: a) when you mention you are looking to buy in a few months or so, agent will be discouraged.  h ewants to make his commission NOW not in a few months.  As a result he may not take you so seriourly yet. b) he may decide to move up YOUR time table to fit HIS.  he may be aggressive and push towards lots of showings to get you to buy a house NOW so he can get his commission.<br
/> 3)  You are very smart to have the next buyer in mind.  Always do this and try not to fall in love with home that are &#8220;almost&#8221; perfect but have that one off the wall characteristic.  Chances are you won&#8217;t be in that home forever and what was &#8220;cute&#8221; to you may not be to others.</p><p>Good luck!</p><p>Mercedes</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rebekah</title><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/comment-page-1/#comment-40443</link> <dc:creator>Rebekah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:26:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sensetosave.com/?p=1157#comment-40443</guid> <description>One quick thing to add - make sure you know how long your pre-approval letter is good for. If they have to keep writing up letters for you between now &amp; November (and pull your credit report every time), I&#039;m not quite sure what that would do to your credit score. Have fun. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One quick thing to add &#8211; make sure you know how long your pre-approval letter is good for. If they have to keep writing up letters for you between now &amp; November (and pull your credit report every time), I&#8217;m not quite sure what that would do to your credit score. Have fun. :)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kacie</title><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/comment-page-1/#comment-40439</link> <dc:creator>Kacie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:22:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sensetosave.com/?p=1157#comment-40439</guid> <description>That&#039;s what the first lender I spoke with said, that he&#039;d approve us for the amount we were wanting and then write an individual letter for the amount we want to pay. Sounds pretty clever to me!The two lenders I spoke with today said we could qualify for a lot more than what I was asking. I didn&#039;t ask how much, and I don&#039;t want to know. I know how much we can comfortably afford, and that&#039;s how much I&#039;m pursuing. Anything higher, and we won&#039;t be able to meet our other goals. I wanna go on vacation someday, ya know?@Meredith, I agree, I was a bit surprised with the transcript request. Oh well, it&#039;ll be good to have a copy on hand for whenever we may need it again. The second lender I spoke with only wanted to see the last pay stub. Much easier.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what the first lender I spoke with said, that he&#8217;d approve us for the amount we were wanting and then write an individual letter for the amount we want to pay. Sounds pretty clever to me!</p><p>The two lenders I spoke with today said we could qualify for a lot more than what I was asking. I didn&#8217;t ask how much, and I don&#8217;t want to know. I know how much we can comfortably afford, and that&#8217;s how much I&#8217;m pursuing. Anything higher, and we won&#8217;t be able to meet our other goals. I wanna go on vacation someday, ya know?</p><p>@Meredith, I agree, I was a bit surprised with the transcript request. Oh well, it&#8217;ll be good to have a copy on hand for whenever we may need it again. The second lender I spoke with only wanted to see the last pay stub. Much easier.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: joanna</title><link>http://sensetosave.com/2009/04/22/first-steps-of-house/comment-page-1/#comment-40438</link> <dc:creator>joanna</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:43:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sensetosave.com/?p=1157#comment-40438</guid> <description>Meredith- transcripts are pretty normal for just-out-of-college folks. Because we can&#039;t show 3 years of consistent employment, they need proof we were in school. That&#039;s all.
-----------------------------------------Here&#039;s a tip: When we got a pre-approval letter, the mortgage broker guy asked what price range we were looking in, and put the top of the range on the letter. This was good for a couple reasons:- We didn&#039;t know the &quot;upper limit&quot; that we could be approved for. We were shopping well within our budget, and if a preapproval letter had the &quot;28% of our income&quot; (that we could still, technically, afford and get approved for, but would prefer not to spend) it may have made our &quot;upper limit&quot; creep up with the thought &quot;well, if they&#039;ll approve us for it, maybe we can afford more...&quot; We were looking out for our own budget, so not even knowing the upper limit helped us stick to our much lower, self-imposed one.- Sellers didn&#039;t know our true &quot;upper limit&quot;. If they&#039;re selling a house for, say, $150,000, and we offer $140k, but our preapproval letter says we can afford much more, they have no reason to negotiate (because they know we can afford the asking price). If they want to sell the house, and know we can get approved for JUST our offer, though, they&#039;re more likely to come down out of motivation to sell.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meredith- transcripts are pretty normal for just-out-of-college folks. Because we can&#8217;t show 3 years of consistent employment, they need proof we were in school. That&#8217;s all.<br
/> &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p><p>Here&#8217;s a tip: When we got a pre-approval letter, the mortgage broker guy asked what price range we were looking in, and put the top of the range on the letter. This was good for a couple reasons:</p><p>- We didn&#8217;t know the &#8220;upper limit&#8221; that we could be approved for. We were shopping well within our budget, and if a preapproval letter had the &#8220;28% of our income&#8221; (that we could still, technically, afford and get approved for, but would prefer not to spend) it may have made our &#8220;upper limit&#8221; creep up with the thought &#8220;well, if they&#8217;ll approve us for it, maybe we can afford more&#8230;&#8221; We were looking out for our own budget, so not even knowing the upper limit helped us stick to our much lower, self-imposed one.</p><p>- Sellers didn&#8217;t know our true &#8220;upper limit&#8221;. If they&#8217;re selling a house for, say, $150,000, and we offer $140k, but our preapproval letter says we can afford much more, they have no reason to negotiate (because they know we can afford the asking price). If they want to sell the house, and know we can get approved for JUST our offer, though, they&#8217;re more likely to come down out of motivation to sell.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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